Session Start: Wed Jul 31 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
[00:00]<+Craig> brb
[00:00]<@BC_Programming> well at least it doesn't use line numbers
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[00:19]<+Craig> How goes it?
[00:19]<@BC_Programming> goes which?
[00:19]<+Craig> Oh, nvm Line numbers for code contrl
[00:19]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[00:20]<@BC_Programming> like the old BASICs usually had that... thankfully this dialect actually predates most of those which has it's pros and cons
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[00:21]<+Craig> Thats what I learned,
[00:21]<+Craig> the code with line numbers :P
[00:21]<@BC_Programming> yea GW-BASIC
[00:22]<@BC_Programming> my entire arms are red lol
[00:23]<+Craig> Yeah the sun burns... Nerds shouldn't go outside :P
[00:23]<@BC_Programming> I didn't realize the UV index was at like 8
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[00:24]<+Craig> :P hahhahaha
[00:24]<+Craig> I don't burn easy :P
[00:24]<@BC_Programming> well I was in the sun for 6 hours total too
[00:24]<+Craig> Takes me 10 hours outside to get a bit red, and 40 hours to turn brown.
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[01:48]<@BC_Programming> so apparently THEOS requires a hardware dongle
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[02:51]<+camerongray> Congrats with the interview!
[02:51]<@BC_Programming> thx camerongray
[02:52]<+camerongray> Company Smartphone, you'll love that :P
[02:52]<@BC_Programming> heh
[02:52]<@BC_Programming> well for remaining available I guess
[02:52]<+camerongray> Imagine if it was an iPhone :P
[02:55]<@BC_Programming> I also had this really weird dream when I went for a bit of a sleep
[02:55]<@BC_Programming> it was like some weird mix of the job as I understood it and Kerbal Space Program
[02:55]<@BC_Programming> like I was in charge of getting things in orbit
[02:55]<@BC_Programming> and I was worried because most missions in KSP end in catastrophic failure
[02:55]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[02:55]<@BC_Programming> it was funny because I woke up
[02:56]<@BC_Programming> and before I was fully awake I was like "man I need to play that to practice"
[02:56]<@BC_Programming> then I realized... wait wtf? that has nothing to do with the job
[03:01]<@BC_Programming> haha creating a new github repo
[03:01]<@BC_Programming> "Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about yolo-pony. "
[03:08]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[03:08]<@BC_Programming> most hilarious repo name ever
[03:08]<+camerongray> How can patio even get himself dressed in the morning? http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,139065.0.html
[03:09]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[03:09]<+camerongray> I just showed it can be done in Windows, I have done it in Windows, I provided a link to software to do it in Windows, yet I was premature to suggest it can be done in Windows?
[03:10]<+camerongray> Well, I guess he kinda exploded...
[03:10]<+camerongray> [09:12:14] <guitarman> is an ok place , is sad that most of the users are self centered morons who lack the ability to be human beibgs
[03:10]<+camerongray> [09:12:25] <guitarman> beings*
[03:10]<+camerongray> [09:12:52] <guitarman> and bot ia atill retentive!
[03:10]<+camerongray> [09:13:00] <guitarman> is8
[03:10]<+camerongray> [09:13:47] <guitarman> dang is*
[03:10]<+camerongray> [09:16:00] -*- guitarman is gonna bugger off , da bot is a friggin drag , I do not need the retentive crud see ya!
[03:11]<@BC_Programming> but the bot didn't say anything :/
[03:11]<@BC_Programming> ooh! haha is he referring to here
[03:11]<@BC_Programming> if so that is hilarious
[03:11]<@BC_Programming> otherwise... it's still hilarious
[03:12]<+camerongray> No idea, just said it in CH completely out of context
[03:12]<@BC_Programming> what was before that?
[03:14]<+camerongray> [08:31:33] <guest_89> I downloaded iat which it said to get, but how do you convert an iso already on the disk?
[03:15]<+camerongray> [08:32:14] <guitarman> an iso is a bootable disk
[03:15]<+camerongray> [08:32:56] <guitarman> copy to disk or flash drive and boot to it
[03:15]<+camerongray> [08:34:29] <guitarman> if is a driver , look at site it came from instructions should be there
[03:15]<+camerongray> [08:48:51] <guitarman> boo ?
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[03:15]<+camerongray> [08:52:46] <guest_01> boo
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[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:02:12] <guitarman> a double boo!
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:02:36] <guitarman> te he he . uu
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:07:17] <guitarman> mm dead end here it seems
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[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:07:53] <guitarman> zuwer yo bro
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:08:11] <guitarman> LM hello
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:08:44] <guitarman> nagiobiwan is never here
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:08:54] <guitarman> oops Magiobiwan
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:09:21] <guest_47> the h^ll kinda nickname is that
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:09:58] <guitarman> Magiobiwan: ?
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:10:01] <guest_47> ya
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:10:14] <guitarman> he runs a gamers site
[03:15]<+camerongray> [09:10:30] <guest_47> oh. that kinda makes sense i guess
[03:15]<@BC_Programming> lol
[03:16]<@BC_Programming> I bet he did a whois, and is too dumb to realize that the whois output is only sent to him
[03:17]<+camerongray> lol
[03:17]<+camerongray> Nah, he was talking about hopebot
[03:18]<@BC_Programming> oh well now I'm confused... but then again this is guitarman we're talking about if you aren't confused it's probably an imposter
[03:18]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[03:19]<+camerongray> He's pretty similar to my code, looks like it should work fine, then freaks out and starts breaking throwing data all over the place!
[03:20]<+camerongray> The chatbot we made as a java project made more sense than him!
[03:20]<+camerongray> And that bot worked off of IRC logs and once said "Your tits are too droopy"
[03:24]<+camerongray> Then got stuck in an infinite loop of asking "Are you English" until you said "Yes" to which it responded "So you're an alcoholic then"
[03:28]<@BC_Programming> lol
[03:28]<Zuwer> Hm, I often get highlighted when you copy IRC logs of guitarman. D:
[03:28]<+camerongray> hehehe, hmm
[03:33]<@BC_Programming> lol
[04:06]<+camerongray> Is this even a question? http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,139191.msg886222/boardseen.html#new
[04:06]<+camerongray> Or is he telling us to do his work for him?
[04:09]<@BC_Programming> haha
[04:10]<@BC_Programming> oooh man
[04:10]<@BC_Programming> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1905177-david-cameron-to-block-porn-in-the-uk/page__st__100#entry23659589
[04:10]<@BC_Programming> somebody made the mistake of saying it was a good idea
[04:34]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:34]<@BC_Programming> I think I kicked their butt
[04:36]<+camerongray> yep!
[04:37]<@BC_Programming> I like the idea of a church of spoon shunning those who would doubt the evil of the fork
[04:52]<Zuwer> ... Well.. My last phone didn't like its swim, the keypad was ruined... Went and bought a new phone, and now my old one works fine again. That was a waste of money. :s
[04:54]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:54]<Zuwer> Anyone want to buy a Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro?
[04:54]<+camerongray> Decent phone?
[04:54]<+camerongray> Ahh, lol
[04:54]<Zuwer> The Sony was the one that went for a swim.
[04:55]<Zuwer> New phone is Samsung S3 Mini.
[04:55]<+camerongray> oh nice!
[04:55]<+camerongray> Oh, what's gatman's opinion on smartphones?
[04:55]<+camerongray> I assume they are stupid and we should all use Nokia 3310s?
[04:56]<Zuwer> I don't think he likes cell phones.. At all.
[04:56]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[04:56]<+camerongray> I'll never understand him :P
[04:56]<@BC_Programming> in more ways than one
[04:57]<Zuwer> Heh.
[04:58]<+camerongray> teehehe
[04:58]<+camerongray> Kinda exploded this morning!
[04:58]<@BC_Programming> babbled about magiobiwan... guess he fumbled and managed to do a whois and complained about this channel
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> probably because we gave him the browbeating of his life when he came in
[04:59]<+camerongray> I bet I was the "self centered moron"
[04:59]<+camerongray> Hmm, but he talked about the bot though
[04:59]<+camerongray> And ChanbotVII is perfect :P
[05:00]<Zuwer> I'm surprised he hasn't said anything about me being in this channel actually.
[05:01]<@BC_Programming> he's too busy flipping out because he thought you ran over pipes
[05:01]<Zuwer> Heh, I'm still not sure if I should be offended by that or not.
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> see what I think is that he is in fact quite self-centered, as we all are, but more so; in that, if he isn't treated like an oracle, it's because everybody else is "too ignorant" or "self-centered morons"
[05:04]<+camerongray> Exactly!
[05:05]<+camerongray> Almost like DB on steroids - DB makes crap up to sound important, can't be proven but most stuff can't be disproven, gatman makes crap up where it is well known that he is wrong!
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[05:18]<Zuwer> Yea, he wasn't too happy that I was using Windows Defender. :x
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> what OS are you using it on
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> Windows Defender is only any good in Win8 iirc
[05:18]<Zuwer> Both of my PCs are Win 8.
[05:19]<Zuwer> Upgraded my desktop a couple of weeks ago.
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> ahh ok
[05:19]<Zuwer> I was using MSE on 7.
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> yeah MSE is pretty much Defender now in win8 to my understanding
[05:19]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[05:20]<Zuwer> From my understanding it is.
[05:20]<+camerongray> It is yeah, that's all I use for AV
[05:20]<+camerongray> Does he actually have any background in IT?
[05:20]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: that would surprise me if it was true for either GT or DB
[05:20]<+camerongray> Or did he play with PCs years ago and never moved wit the times?
[05:21]<+camerongray> I remember him telling me about him using a 286 to render drawings for clients "Because it worked"
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> DB is basically trying ot pass off his inability to write properly as some Terminal or mainframe limitation that never existed
[05:21]<+camerongray> Doesn't mean you couldn't get something better!
[05:21]<+camerongray> Like, I dunno, a Raspberry Pi! :P
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> GT, well, I don't know where he's coming from seems like he's just tangentially interested in computers and somehow things he's an IT expert of some sort
[05:22]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> offering sage advice like "vista prelude"
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> and not actually being able to substantiate ANYTHING he says... then asking us to take it on faith
[05:22]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:22]<+camerongray> But we should just trust him!
[05:23]<Zuwer> He was quite keen for me to run XP on my desktop.. Don't know about drivers for it. :s
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> OK that would really piss me off
[05:23]<Zuwer> If I need XP, easier to just VM it, 512MB of RAM and 1 core and it's easily fast enough for what I'd need it for.
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> what he runs is his business... and you can say "I'd recommend maybe "this OS" for that machine"
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> but when you Jump on a soapbox and basically try to dictate the OS choice of somebody else... then you are a douchebag
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> I mean just mentioning SP3 and he seems to froth at the mouth and start speaking in tongues
[05:25]<+camerongray> Exactly!
[05:26]<+camerongray> Nothing worse than people telling you what to run, it's your PC!
[05:27]<+camerongray> And I don't know what he means buy XP being more stable, I can't think of the last time 7 or 8 crashed on me!
[05:27]<@BC_Programming> he's got absolutely no basis for the claim
[05:27]<Zuwer> One thing that would irritate him now is my PC's boot time. His XP install did boot faster than my 7 install. Not so much anymore.
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> and he always says like "there are lots of benchmarks"
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> "link."
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> and yet no link! Almost as if it didn't exist and he expected us to take it "on faith"
[05:29]<+camerongray> I'm sure he'd bring up boot speed - You know, the best benchmark ever!
[05:29]<+camerongray> Lets look at the boot speed to compare my PCs!
[05:29]<Zuwer> Yea, my PC would boot slower, but once in the desktop, not a hope in heck of his PC keeping up.
[05:30]<+camerongray> My Desktop sits on the Windows 8 boot screen for around 8 seconds, my HTPC sits on it for 2 seconds!
[05:30]<+camerongray> So by that logic, a Celeron 847 and 2gb RAM is better than an i7 3770k and 8gb RAM
[05:31]<Zuwer> Definitely, Celerons are incredibly powerful CPU's. :x
[05:31]<+camerongray> lol
[05:31]<+camerongray> The new ones are actually pretty good for home/office use
[05:31]<+camerongray> But the one in this HTPC is almost Atom level
[05:31]<Zuwer> They are, but compared to a 3770k.
[05:31]<@BC_Programming> yeah there are benchmarks that put them as faster in 80%, don't need new PCs or Vista Prelude
[05:31]<+camerongray> Motherboard and CPU together cost £60!
[05:32]<+camerongray> hahaa!
[05:32]<+camerongray> I liked the bit where he says that in 2014 the community will become XP support :P
[05:32]<+camerongray> Sure, community can help you use it, but can they patch security holes?
[05:32]<@BC_Programming> community?
[05:32]<@BC_Programming> oh
[05:32]<@BC_Programming> hahahaha
[05:32]<@BC_Programming> that's rich!
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> I mean Windows 98 did ok with it's unofficial service pack, but that is a bit of a different oyster
[05:33]<Zuwer> Hm, so effectively a Linux-like community behind Windows XP.. Can't see that happening.
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> it's odd that he is using XP, most people that are staunch nostalgivists prefer Windows 9x
[05:34]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:34]<+camerongray> I can't wait to see what happens in the future
[05:34]<+camerongray> He'll have to change at some point!
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> I was thinking of writing a little series about older systems, and using them today
[05:34]<+camerongray> Oh yeah
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> like installing Visual additions for windows 98 as well as the unofficial service pack
[05:35]<+camerongray> I've got PIII, PII and K6-2 laptops - Could take them into a lecture :P
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> or what specs make it worth it to use older systems
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> I remember there was a add-on program, I think it might have been an old version of WindowBlinds
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> but it was for Windows 98, and you could get an XP-style start menu and taskbar
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> it was pretty awesome actually... had it on my laptop until I realized that it was a bit processor and memory intensive for actual use lol
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[07:27]<+camerongray> Here we go...
[07:27]<+camerongray> <guest_54> how can i remove a stuck icon in my toolbar
[07:27]<+camerongray> <PCdoc> which toolbar?
[07:27]<+camerongray> <guest_54> bottom of screen
[07:27]<+camerongray> <PCdoc> which icon?
[07:27]<+camerongray> <guest_54> its a programme icon
[07:27]<+camerongray> <guest_54> the programmes nonn responsive
[07:27]<+camerongray> <PCdoc> right click anywhere on the taskbar (the bottom bar is called taskbar) click "lock the bar" from the menu
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[07:28]<+camerongray> <PCdoc> u mean the quick launch ?
[07:28]<+camerongray> <guest_54> the icon is there but nothings happened
[07:28]<+camerongray> <BattleCam> what program is it?
[07:28]<+camerongray> <guest_54> mp3 rocket
[07:28]<+camerongray> <BattleCam> and does only one icon do that?
[07:28]<+camerongray> <guest_54> yes its gone to a blank black screen on mp3 rocket
[07:28]<+camerongray> <BattleCam> reinstall the program
[07:28]<+camerongray> <BattleCam> uninstall it 1st
[07:28]<+camerongray> <guest_54> ok thanks
[07:28]<+camerongray> So, whenever a program stops responding, you must reinstall it!
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> facepalm
[07:30]<Zuwer> Does that same logic apply to an OS that is unresponsive? :x
[07:30]<+camerongray> lol"
[07:30]<+camerongray> No no no!
[07:30]<+camerongray> For that you need a new computer!
[07:31]<Zuwer> Oh right, OS has halted, therefore my hardware must be fried. Makes perfect sense. Thank you.
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[07:49]<PCdoc> he strted with top remove an icon, while i was typing he must have said stuff, i pressed enter to tell how to remove icon, he said non-responsive
[07:49]<PCdoc> with to *
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[09:06]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M
[09:41]<+camerongray> time for "Patio's totally practical solutions!" http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138948.msg885552.html#msg885552
[09:41]<+camerongray> LC has said that to me too, "Charge your laptop then use it, never use it when charging
[09:41]<@BC_Programming> morons
[09:42]<+camerongray> So that totally works, I go into the office, battery dies around 3pm, stop using it so I can then charge it then start work again at 4pm
[09:42]<+camerongray> Oh, even better!
[09:42]<+camerongray> He was saying that the reason someone's laptop was slow was because it was charging and that was draining power that would go to the CPU
[09:42]<+camerongray> No joke!
[09:43]<@BC_Programming> sigh
[09:44]<+camerongray> I'm waiting to be told not to use my laptop at work because laptops should only be portable!
[09:45]<+camerongray> I want to show him my regular laptop use, he would freak!
[09:45]<+camerongray> At the moment there is about 1l of liquid next to mine, I use it in my bed on my lap, and it's plugged in at the moment
[09:46]<@BC_Programming> you ahve to keep the water away or it will drain power too
[09:46]<+camerongray> lol!
[09:46]<+camerongray> I actually spilled my bottle of water on my laptop, poured right into the keyboad!
[09:46]<+camerongray> Oh I love Thinkpads
[09:49]<+camerongray> Funny thing was, when he was ranting about liquids should never be near computers, I looked around my room to see a bottle of water sitting on my network switch and an open can of Irn Bru on top of my PC
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> who ranted?
[09:50]<+camerongray> LC
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah I'm sure his resume is just chock full of IT work
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> couldn't run a piss up in a brewery
[09:50]<+camerongray> I guess he wants me to pass out by sitting all day at a PC with nothing to drink
[09:51]<jamer> Lol
[09:57]<+camerongray> But think of the crumbs!
[09:57]<+camerongray> Because we all lean over the laptop to eat!
[09:58]<+camerongray> OMG! Next time he does this, I'll show him my attitude towards food and laptops!
[09:58]<+camerongray> https://twitter.com/rikkiguy/status/320171467759304704/photo/1
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> there are no crumbs in my laptop
[10:00]<+camerongray> Yeha
[10:00]<+camerongray> Like who eats something while sitting over the keyboard!
[10:00]<+camerongray> My eating *off* the laptop on the other hand was genius! Food was too hot to put on my lap!
[10:03]<PCdoc> i wonder 1 thing, these guys like guitarman who is i think a farmer or some truck painter. patio, lostcoast. he always into baby sitting. His age is like he should be working.... how come these guys mod and help over computer community with no experience or less experience?
[10:04]<PCdoc> and comment and judge over people who are currently into practice
[10:04]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[10:04]<+camerongray> Yeah
[10:04]<@BC_Programming> nathan gave them free reign
[10:04]<@BC_Programming> Forum is better IMO
[10:04]<+camerongray> YES!
[10:05]<+camerongray> Yeah, the forum isn't as busy as it was, but so much better
[10:05]<PCdoc> i remember guitarman always saying, "yeah just finieshed painting a part of the truck"
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> because there are folks that actually know what they are doing, and willing to learn
[10:05]<+camerongray> In fact, most of the idiots in the forum are the chat ops!
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc: did he use MSPaint?
[10:05]<+camerongray> Like Patio earlier on that multiseat thing
[10:05]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: lol
[10:06]<PCdoc> and lostcoast who has ever went out of his house is to take his kid to the school
[10:06]<PCdoc> if he is taking his kid to school! then i bet he must be around 35-40 ?
[10:06]<+camerongray> Nah, I think he's in his 50s
[10:06]<PCdoc> at this age he should be working??!! m sure ch is not fetching him anything
[10:06]<+camerongray> yeah
[10:06]<@BC_Programming> who says he isn't?
[10:06]<+camerongray> I mean, I'm at work now, waiting on some scripts to run
[10:07]<PCdoc> ok, 50's. still he is not retired. unless he was in some defense or any such thing and took volunteery retirement
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> Actually let me check my PM logs from ages ago
[10:07]<+camerongray> I mean, he might have some job, but he's at home all the time during the day
[10:08]<PCdoc> a guy, whole day at home. how on earth or from where on earth did he get experience about computers??
[10:08]<+camerongray> To be fair, I learned most of my computer stuff at home
[10:08]<PCdoc> just learning doesnt giving someone experience about diagnosing or fixing problems. he needs to do it ... then only he can advice others coz he has actually done it
[10:08]<PCdoc> camerongray: me too....
[10:09]<PCdoc> but with doing something.?? u must have done something??
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> lol Mulreay=murialrey in the log
[10:09]<PCdoc> m sure u didnt just read books and come on ch chat to help ?
[10:09]<+camerongray> hehehe!
[10:09]<+camerongray> I played about a bit with my own PCs
[10:09]<PCdoc> yeah!
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc I have never in my entire life had a job involving computers
[10:09]<+camerongray> Learned a lot from watching others in chat (When it used to be good)
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> until hopefully next week that is :D
[10:10]<+camerongray> My job involves computers, but not diagnosing them
[10:10]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: looking at lostcoast, it behaves like he is the father of all the repair person
[10:10]<PCdoc> and no one has that capable knowledge of teaching lostcoast ..
[10:10]<PCdoc> i wonder what book did he read ..
[10:10]<+camerongray> Most diagnosing I've done was when we got a hard drive caddy stuck in a server - repair consisted of "yeah, it's stuck" followed by "Right, you hold the drive, I'll hold the server, now pull!"
[10:10]<jamer> Ill be in a couple weeks going back to school and starting a two year cource on conputers and networking
[10:11]<+camerongray> Then the drive did come out and fly across the room
[10:11]<+camerongray> Thankfully it was an SSD :P
[10:11]<jamer> XD
[10:11]<+camerongray> It was also kinda me that got it stuck :P
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> he's over 54 years old, has a daughter that is 25 and a son of indeterminate age
[10:11]<+camerongray> Oh?
[10:11]<PCdoc> <3
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> based on my PM chatlog
[10:12]<+camerongray> Ahh
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> ~2009
[10:12]<+camerongray> Any more gossip?
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> not really
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/QBz8H08.jpg
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> I don't know why but I found this hilarious
[10:14]<+camerongray> hahaaha!
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> it's like "In this action thriller, a father of three reads a newspaper peacefully with a cup of coffee"
[10:15]<+camerongray> hehehe
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/vtKsnCl.jpg
[10:15]<+camerongray> If only we knew LC's name, like we do with Mr Dunce
[10:15]<PCdoc> whose sam worthington ?
[10:15]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[10:16]<PCdoc> oh
[10:16]<PCdoc> lol
[10:17]<PCdoc> but if u serach google, lostcoast has very much criticism over internet
[10:17]<PCdoc> search *
[10:17]<+camerongray> yep!
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> what are you guys googling for results
[10:18]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming murialrey is my mibbit pseudonym
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> oh no he's onto you!
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> One day I'm waiting for you to join the channel and somebody to say "Hi murray"
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> and you respond "f*** you too"
[10:21]<jamer> "Holly D. I have never ever ever been in a channel so poorly run!! It's disgraceful the ops are power mad and kicking and banning left right and center!!
[10:21]<jamer> Now please remember my first time in there and I asked a question and got an answer then I mentioned there's an awful lot of kicking etc going on and lostcoast takes offence and kicks and bans me!! Disgusting!! And what am I banned for? Ban evasion!! How can I ban evade if I have never been in your rotten channel before.
[10:21]<jamer> I will be spreading the word about this place and I certainly wont be recommending this place to anyone ever. You need to sort it out. Get shot of the kick and ban happy ops then people might find you more useful. I can see why I was advised not to use this channel. Rubbish!!"
[10:21]<jamer> so true ...
[10:22]<@BC_Programming> oh where was this!
[10:22]<@BC_Programming> LINK
[10:22]<jamer> http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.computerhope.com
[10:22]<@BC_Programming> hmm a review for computerhope.com the site though :/ the chat is giving the site a bad name
[10:22]<PCdoc> wtf ? http://bc-programming.com/irclogs/HTML/glitchpc.log.%5B2013.07.05%5D.html
[10:23]<@BC_Programming> what?
[10:23]<+camerongray> Yeah, he's racist too!
[10:24]<+camerongray> I used to point people to CH if I couldn't help them for whatever reason
[10:25]<+camerongray> Guess what I don't do now!
[10:25]<PCdoc> wow! BC_Programming why the hell are these logs saved ?? that too in google search ?
[10:25]<@BC_Programming> Chanbot logs the channel, a python script converts them to HTML and it get's FTP'd to my webhost
[10:25]<PCdoc> u didnt name guitarman in the ch forum, but its visible here
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> and? I don't care if they see what I've said
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> if guitarman and db are any indication it would be the intellectual equivalent of a man with a chainsaw attacking a dandelion
[10:26]<PCdoc> lol
[10:26]<+camerongray> hehehe!
[10:27]<PCdoc> ok, i g2g close office and go home :P
[10:27]<PCdoc> cya laters
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[10:27]<@BC_Programming> heh would be funny if db found them
[10:27]<@BC_Programming> discovered were not to be trifled with >:(
[10:28]<jamer> so apparently lostcoast had tux change tuxreminder cause of lostcoast ....
[10:28]<@BC_Programming> hmm?
[10:28]<@BC_Programming> oh tuxreminder is in a lot of channels
[10:29]<@BC_Programming> I'm only in one of them
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> OMG... reading the language reference for THEOS basic
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> and it's exactly the freaking same as VAX-11 BASIC
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> Built-in Matrix functions even
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> I think it's a continuation from the VAX-11 BASIC
[10:52]<jamer> XD
[10:52]<jamer> BC_Programming np fpr the language reference
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> I already thanked you :P
[10:53]<@BC_Programming> I tried the OS but I think it needs a hardware dongle
[10:53]<jamer> you needed it XD
[11:27]<jamer> so ... ive got to get a graphing calculator for school ....
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[11:53]<@Mulreay> Spent quite a while putting houses inside the fortress it looks absolutely average
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> which fortress
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> the map fort?
[11:58]<@Mulreay> Oh yeah, sorry wasn't clear on that
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> yeah took me a second.. that's gonna be a undertaking
[12:04]<@Mulreay> Got a video for it, uploading shortly.. I've only filled in an area behind the church took about 2 hours to fill that area
[12:07]<@Mulreay> And it still needs gardens/trees/flower beds and the such
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> hmm Kerbal Space Program is evil
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> things were going so well
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> I almost had my space station into orbit
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> just my last stage booster to fire... Everything was great and I had way more than enough fuel
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> I should have been watching the engine temp
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> R.I.P Jebediah Kerman
[12:09]<@Mulreay> heh
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> if NASA went through astronauts this fast it would be considered genocide
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> I think I killed a few dozen brave souls during design before I even got off the ground lol
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> I'd like to go to the Mun but I think establishing an orbit might be needed first
[12:12]<@BC_Programming> the Mun will have to wait until... I guess John F. Kerman to give a speech
[12:14]<@Mulreay> lol
[12:14]<@Mulreay> Looks like fine I just 'purchased' it
[12:14]<@Mulreay> fun*
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> ok I strapped like a dozen solid rocket boosters to it this time
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> sure it will turn the astronauts into paste, but one small step for Kerman... one giant leap for Kerman-kind and all that
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> hmm that could be an issue... the engines most certainly are supposed to stay attached to the ship
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> Lodnard Kerman I hardly knew ye
[12:17]<@Mulreay> heh
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> oh well, it was unavoidable except by being a bit more careful when setting up the staging
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> but I mean who has time for that
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> it's funny and sad because I really don't want to be committing genocide for their entire race
[12:20]<+Tux2> lol, I'm going to be publishing some javadocs for the new API in the Enjin Plugin and I realized that I only half documented part of one class
[12:21]<+Tux2> (Which, when I documented it, didn't think about even making javadocs)
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> http://www.bc-programming.com/station.png
[12:35]<+Tux2> whoo!
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> the International Kerman statio is in orbit
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> I called it the Lodnard-Keifen Station in honour of the only two Kerbals to make it into space without dying
[12:36]<+Tux2> lol
[12:36]<+Tux2> And here I am java doc'ing code
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> the orbit is a bit better than Mir-Vin, my first satellite
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> I almost killed Lodnard by putting in in EVA
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> I watched helplessly as he floated away because I didn't know the controls
[12:46]<@Mulreay> heh
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> Lodnard NOOO you were doing so well
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> then I figured out the controls and was able to rescue the poor sod
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> there... I managed to make the orbit circular at least
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[12:55]<@Mulreay> cool
[13:06]<+Tux2> lol, nice
[13:06]<@Mulreay> Mmm I think this laptop is due a restart.. 18 days 20hrs and 48mins
[13:08]<@Mulreay> But it has a job to do so stay strong laptop, fight through the pain!!
[13:29]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming you should record some footage from Kerbal for funzees
[13:41]<+Tux2> Minecon tickets on sale in 3 hours!
[13:41]<+Tux2> https://mojang.com/2013/07/minecon-tickets-are-here/
[13:41]<+Tux2> https://minecon.mojang.com/
[13:42]<@Mulreay> Wish I could but it's a VERY expensive deal for somebody not in the US
[13:45]<+Tux2> lol, yeah, it's going to be expensive for me...
[13:46]<@Mulreay> Just flights alone would cost me nigh on a grand
[13:47]<+Tux2> wow...
[13:47]<+Tux2> even for me the flight itself is going to be around $400
[13:48]<@Mulreay> Well I did look a while back and the flight was £940 so $1470
[14:03]<+Tux2> yikes!
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[14:13]<@Mulreay> It's OK tux2 I wasn't asking you for a loan or anything :p
[15:45]<+camerongray> lol!
[15:51]<+camerongray> Like... WTF!
[15:51]<+camerongray> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,139188.msg886400.html#msg886400
[15:51]<+camerongray> Like pfft, who needs to save power!
[15:53]<@Mulreay> Yeah, I agree with Patio my computer is a hybrid it runs on electricity with a small coal fire station in the back.. come on we all know this
[15:54]<+camerongray> lol!
[15:54]<+camerongray> Did you hear about his ideas for powering a laptop?
[15:54]<@Mulreay> Will I cringe?
[15:54]<+camerongray> Maybe :P
[15:54]<+camerongray> You are to only charge it when it's off, then only use it off its battery
[15:54]<+camerongray> Ya know, practical!
[15:55]<@Mulreay> I don't understand? Charge off, then off it's battery... not sure what you mean
[15:56]<@Mulreay> oh
[15:56]<@Mulreay> I get it
[15:56]<@Mulreay> he said that?
[15:56]<+camerongray> Yep
[15:56]<+camerongray> Well, over two separate helps
[15:56]<+camerongray> One time saying to only charge when it's off, the other time saying to only run off the battery
[15:57]<@Mulreay> So this laptop here is DOOMED as I only ever run it on charge.. yeah I do let the battery run down every once in a while for health but that's it
[15:57]<+camerongray> So basically, I charge it in the morning, go to work where I can use it to 3pm (1pm if I turn off all the power management of course) then turn it off and sit doing nothing!
[15:58]<@Mulreay> That is complete nonsense
[15:59]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:59]<+camerongray> Like, how can you actually use a laptop like that
[15:59]<@Mulreay> I agree that you should run a battery down once in a while just because well you should but to say that is the ONLY way you should use a battery is misleading and stupid
[15:59]<+camerongray> Then there's lostcoast's attitude to food and drink near computers :P
[15:59]<+camerongray> Right now I have a can of Irn Bru and a Toberone sitting on my tower!
[16:01]<@Mulreay> Don't drink near a computer if you have multiple sclerosis or something similar, otherwise do what you want
[16:01]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[16:01]<+camerongray> Although I did pour a bottle of water through my laptop the other day by accident - I love ThinkPads, no damage at all!
[16:02]<@Mulreay> Water is the lesser of the evils of spilage.. sugar drinks are the killer
[16:02]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:03]<+camerongray> If it was Irn Bru the laptop would still be fine as it's spillproof but I'd need a new keyboard for it
[16:03]<+camerongray> The board is designed to get liquid away from internal components, not really to safe itself
[16:03]<@Mulreay> Water spills 'shutdown' and then wait.. but I would say sugar drink spills 'mop away as best you can turn off then deal with the sticky stuff
[16:10]<+camerongray> Did I tell you how awesome this flat was?
[16:10]<@Mulreay> You have a flat?
[16:10]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[16:10]<+camerongray> Moved in last Friday
[16:10]<@Mulreay> Never knew do tell
[16:10]<@Mulreay> Pics?
[16:10]<+camerongray> Wall in my room is huge, £52 on eBay later and a little work- Now have an almost 3m cinema :P
[16:10]<+camerongray> 2 secs
[16:11]<@Mulreay> Good for you friend.. hope the flat is awesome
[16:13]<@Mulreay> I want to crossfire this PC badly, will have to save up
[16:15]<+camerongray> lol
[16:15]<+camerongray> Now to find my card reader :P
[16:16]<@Mulreay> heh
[16:17]<+camerongray> Oh I love having 10mbps upload!
[16:17]<+camerongray> Got Virgin 100mbps :D
[16:18]<+camerongray> http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/camerongray1515/library/Flat
[16:18]<+camerongray> Password is '23flat32'
[16:18]<@Mulreay> Yeah i get 110 down and 10 up
[16:19]<@Mulreay> Love the kilt
[16:20]<+camerongray> Oh lol :P
[16:20]<+camerongray> Just brought that over today
[16:20]<@Mulreay> I am British I would see that :-)
[16:20]<+camerongray> hehehe
[16:20]<+camerongray> Best item of clothing ever!
[16:20]<@Mulreay> Nice set up love the wall projector
[16:21]<+camerongray> Yeah, so does all my friends ;P
[16:21]<+camerongray> Going to have a movie and pizza night
[16:21]<+camerongray> Was going to be last night but I broke the projector
[16:21]<@Mulreay> Very cool bud
[16:21]<+camerongray> Yeah, thanks
[16:21]<+camerongray> And surround sound!
[16:21]<+camerongray> Will probably have it tommorrow now it's all in one piece
[16:21]<@Mulreay> 7.1 0r 5.1
[16:21]<+camerongray> 5.1
[16:22]<+camerongray> Just a basic Hitachi system, my uncle was getting rid of it so gave it to me
[16:22]<@Mulreay> What are the speakers?
[16:22]<@Mulreay> ahh ok]
[16:22]<+camerongray> Not the best but works well
[16:22]<+camerongray> I have nice Bose speakers for my PC
[16:23]<+camerongray> Need to get a cable for the surround though - Only takes Coax for surround but TV is optical only
[16:23]<+camerongray> Maplin have a converter, just need to get there
[16:24]<+camerongray> I love how the internet connection is battery backed up :P
[16:25]<@Mulreay> I only use headphones here, neighbours and housemate.. I used to use my TV (40" Sony Bravia speakers) but then my housemate would wake me up reaching over my asleep body to grap the remote and turn the TV off when I fell asleep and then I would end up in his room turning his TV off.. that happened for quite a while until I listen to everything now on headphones.. I have 3 headphones around
[16:25]<@Mulreay> me right now, one for the TV, second for the PS3 and the third is for the laptop
[16:26]<+camerongray> lol
[16:26]<@Mulreay> That was a lot of bad grammer... sorry
[16:27]<@Mulreay> And sentence structure
[16:27]<@Mulreay> I was typing fast
[16:28]<@Mulreay> But happy for you to get your own flat, you flew the roost as it were.. do you think you will miss your parents?
[16:35]<+camerongray> Well, I'll see them every week ;P
[16:35]<+camerongray> Like 2 miles away
[16:35]<+camerongray> Flat is shared though
[16:45]<@Mulreay> I tried to find your clan from the Kilt... still looking
[16:46]<+camerongray> Nah, it's a modern day tarten :P
[16:46]<+camerongray> tartan*
[16:46]<+camerongray> My clan is Stewart so didn't want to get a Royal Stewart kilt, too common!
[16:46]<@Mulreay> Ahh damn, thought I was being clever
[16:46]<+camerongray> teheeh
[16:47]<+camerongray> Still wish there were more opportunities to wear it!
[16:47]<@Mulreay> Yeah, a friend of mine has a Royal Stewart'
[16:48]<+camerongray> Yeah, it's the british one so a bit too common
[16:48]<+camerongray> Never seen someone else with mine, so that's good
[16:48]<@Mulreay> Nice, it can be the colours of the clan Cameron
[16:49]<+camerongray> hehehe
[16:49]<+camerongray> Need to wear it more though, worked it out that at the moment it's cost £80 a time :P
[16:49]<+camerongray> And that's just for the kilt!
[16:51]<+camerongray> Still a great thing to have!
[16:51]<+camerongray> And kiltmakers are so friendly too
[16:52]<@Mulreay> Indeed
[16:53]<+camerongray> I should wear it and just walk down the street - So many tourists at the moment!
[16:53]<@Mulreay> My family are from the Isle of Man and we kinda have interest in the celts etc
[16:53]<+camerongray> Do a test, see how much longer it takes me to get from one end to the other!
[16:54]<+camerongray> It's not Disney, I'm not some character to take photos with :P
[16:54]<+camerongray> So now some poor tourists have a photo with me looking like an idiot :P
[16:54]<@Mulreay> lol
[16:55]<@Mulreay> Do you have a sporan I think it's called
[16:55]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:55]<+camerongray> Looks silly without it
[16:55]<@Mulreay> Oh sporran.. just looked it up
[16:56]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:56]<+camerongray> I don't have the jacket or anything yet
[16:57]<+camerongray> Just the Ghillie Shirt
[16:58]<@Mulreay> Heh, how very 1000AD.. I want one of those
[16:58]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:58]<+camerongray> I should have a photo around here somewhere
[16:59]<@Mulreay> Cool
[17:01]<+camerongray> http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/kilt.jpg - Oh how handy it is having a webserver in the flat!
[17:01]<+camerongray> That and a 10mbps upload speed!
[17:02]<@Mulreay> Wow you are the talest man alive
[17:02]<+camerongray> lol!
[17:02]<+camerongray> Only 6ft or so
[17:02]<@Mulreay> I would barely reach your shoulder
[17:02]<+camerongray> Ahh
[17:03]<+camerongray> The guy was laughing at my kilt measurements - Really long with a narrow waist
[17:04]<@Mulreay> Yeah like BC_Programming you are long and thin I'm just short and wide..
[17:04]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[17:04]<+camerongray> The secret of BC_Programming
[17:06]<+camerongray> Most of my friends are similar build do me, bet my kilt will be getting borrowed constantly!
[17:08]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming is as tall as you as far as I know, I'm 5ft 2in but I have a 40in chest and I'm not a fatty.. my Mum says from a child you're just big boned.. but for me it's tru I'm no fatty just wider than taller
[17:08]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[17:08]<+camerongray> I don't know how I'm not fat!
[17:09]<@Mulreay> Are you an eater?
[17:09]<+camerongray> Oh yeah :P
[17:09]<+camerongray> If it's junk food, I eat it!
[17:10]<@Mulreay> High metabolism
[17:10]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:15]<@Mulreay> Hopefully one of these days we can take a picture with you leaning your elbow on the top of my head friend.
[17:16]<+camerongray> hehehe yeah
[17:16]<+camerongray> Then Craig doing it to me!
[17:18]<@Mulreay> Heh yeah
[17:19]<@Mulreay> He's one told barsteward
[17:19]<@Mulreay> tall*
[17:24]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[17:29]<@Mulreay> Just hit 180,oo
[17:29]<@Mulreay> oops
[17:29]<@Mulreay> 180,000 views and 231 subs
[17:34]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[17:45]<+Craig> Realyl guys
[17:50]<+Craig> :P
[17:51]<@Mulreay> Really guy's what?
[17:52]<+Craig> Hehe, I thought you were saying something else, :P But you all stopped. :P
[17:52]<+Craig> So I was along the lines of, talking about me while I'm not around :P
[17:52]<@Mulreay> I don't understand??
[17:52]<+Craig> Thats ok, its not important. :P
[17:53]<@Mulreay> If we stopped we must have said something.. please clarify
[17:54]<+Craig> :P I thought Craig doing it to me had different meaning, after reading I realized it was in reference to me placing my elbow on camerongray's head :P
[17:54]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[17:54]<@Mulreay> As in you were TALL
[17:55]<+Craig> :P
[17:55]<+Craig> Right, which is why what I was thinking was moot :p
[17:56]<+camerongray> Oh yeah Craig - What do you think of my new flat/room?
[17:56]<+camerongray> http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/camerongray1515/library/Flat?sort=3&page=1
[17:56]<+camerongray> Password: 23flat32
[17:57]<+Craig> Nicely done
[17:57]<+camerongray> Thanks!
[17:57]<+camerongray> So much space!
[17:57]<+camerongray> And 3m cinema screen with 5.1 surround :P
[17:57]<+camerongray> Projector was £52!
[17:58]<+Craig> Wow, thats cheap?
[17:58]<+Craig> How did you manage that?
[17:58]<+camerongray> eBay
[17:58]<+camerongray> It's used
[17:58]<+camerongray> But decent spec - 1024x768 native which is great
[17:58]<+Craig> Ahh
[17:58]<@Mulreay> Sorry Craig I never meant to push you I just wanted for one minute that it wasn't me who is the fool.
[17:58]<+camerongray> Minor convergence issue but I think that was me when I cleaned it - No big dea though
[17:59]<+Craig> convergence?
[17:59]<+camerongray> Just a small bit red creeping out of the site of whites
[17:59]<+Craig> Not sure what you mean Mulreay,
[17:59]<+camerongray> 3 LCDs - One for each colour - The beams aren't perfectly aligned
[17:59]<+Craig> Ahhh
[17:59]<+camerongray> Only really noticable when you are close to the screen so no big deal
[17:59]<+camerongray> At that level you see the pixels anyway
[18:00]<+Craig> I have seen the specs on those, they fell flat on their face... :( but they are nice if you get them working.
[18:00]<+Craig> You mean wall... you don't have a screen. :P
[18:00]<+camerongray> lol!
[18:01]<+camerongray> Was planning on getting a newer Dell DLP one - BUt was twice the price and 800x600
[18:01]<+camerongray> And this: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2872998054
[18:03]<+Craig> NICE!
[18:03]<+Craig> When did you move?
[18:03]<+Craig> Why windows8?
[18:03]<+camerongray> Last Friday
[18:03]<+camerongray> Just on my HTPC
[18:03]<+camerongray> Sky Go uses Silverlight
[18:03]<+Craig> What is Sky?
[18:04]<+camerongray> Satellite TV service in the UK
[18:04]<+camerongray> But Sky Go is their on demand streaming service
[18:04]<@Mulreay> UK sat TV
[18:04]<+Craig> Oh hahahah
[18:04]<+camerongray> Did you see my little datacenter? :P
[18:04]<+Craig> Meh, I download what I want to watch. :P
[18:04]<+Craig> Mine is more powerful :P
[18:05]<+camerongray> True - Mine uses less power :P
[18:05]<@Mulreay> But that would be theft
[18:05]<+camerongray> *grabs power meter*
[18:06]<+camerongray> All that stuff pulls around 65w!
[18:06]<+Craig> :P
[18:06]<@Mulreay> I'm the 532th highest downloader in the world when it comes to whatpulse
[18:07]<+camerongray> And it works! http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/
[18:07]<+camerongray> Which is going to be so useful!
[18:07]<+camerongray> And my router does this: http://flat.camerongray.me:8080/graphs/
[18:07]<+Craig> Thats a strange picture choice :p
[18:07]<+camerongray> lol, was for Mulreay :P
[18:08]<+camerongray> Really useful - Directory is mounted on my PC, throw something in and *BOOM* online
[18:08]<+Craig> Be cautious about that, my Apache server is in a Linux Box, is yours safe?
[18:09]<+camerongray> huh?
[18:09]<+camerongray> It's a Linux box
[18:09]<+Craig> Ah cool,
[18:09]<+camerongray> Debian 7
[18:09]<+Craig> Good to hear
[18:09]<+Craig> :P
[18:09]<+Craig> Apache is netorious for being hacked
[18:09]<+camerongray> Little Atom D525 with 4gb RAM and a pair of 1tb HDDs in RAID 1
[18:09]<+camerongray> Ahh
[18:10]<@Mulreay> <+Craig> Be cautious about that, ... really? Who are you to say that?
[18:10]<+camerongray> It should be fine really - Nothing production on here
[18:11]<+camerongray> Mostly storage and a web server for development
[18:11]<+Craig> I am cautious about my apache server, one that just has a no login directory can be very open, and much simpler to hack.
[18:11]<+Craig> I was just making sure he was aware of apache's many insecurities?
[18:12]<+camerongray> True, but http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/ is protected
[18:12]<+camerongray> And that has the important stuff
[18:12]<+Craig> :P
[18:12]<+camerongray> And by important I mean stuff like development sites :P
[18:12]<+camerongray> Anything major is on my colocated box
[18:13]<+Craig> Ahh :)
[18:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, wouldn't dare host from home
[18:14]<+Craig> I am hosting from home, however, I do have a full firewall in the road to my server. :P
[18:15]<+Craig> and any open port has a peice of software behind it. :P
[18:15]<+camerongray> Ahh, for me it's the single dynamic IP and the 10mbps upload
[18:15]<+camerongray> And the power costs
[18:15]<+camerongray> And noise :P
[18:15]<+Craig> Seperate room here :P
[18:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[18:15]<+Craig> My office is the noisy one, :P
[18:16]<+camerongray> I like having mine colo'd though - super reliable
[18:16]<+camerongray> 226 days uptime
[18:16]<+camerongray> And that's when I got it!
[18:16]<+Craig> Nice
[18:16]<@Mulreay> It's one of those 'I don't need you moments'
[18:17]<+Craig> I would have had I not moved 5-6 times, and a couple power outages due to craig's feet. :P
[18:17]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, if anyone wants a really cheap dedicated box! http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml
[18:17]<+Craig> Not sure what you mean Mulreay?
[18:17]<+camerongray> Ahh, mine is on a UPS!
[18:18]<+Craig> Still not sure I need one. :P
[18:18]<+camerongray> Shows how efficient it is, not a single LED lit on the power usage meter!
[18:18]<+Craig> I am getting my brother to remake my site, and host it. :)
[18:18]<+camerongray> Mine was £90 with new cells!
[18:20]<+Craig> I am looking for one with about 2 hrs of backup power time for 800wats
[18:26]<@Mulreay> Craig I just paid my bills after you made sure I did.. £14 done.. OK your turn.
[18:26]<+Craig> ?
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